We conjecture that (when the notion of Hadamard state is suitably adapted to spacetimes with timelike boundaries) there is no isometry-invariant Hadamard state for the massive or massless covariant Klein–Gordon equation defined on the region of the Kruskal spacetime to the left of a surface of constant Schwarzschild radius in the right Schwarzschild wedge when Dirichlet boundary conditions are put on that surface. We also prove that, with a suitable definition for ‘boost-invariant Hadamard state’ (which we call ‘strongly boost-invariant globally Hadamard’) which takes into account both the existence of the timelike boundary and the special infra-red pathology of massless fields in 1+1 dimensions, there is no such state for the massless wave equation on the region of 1+1 Minkowski space to the left of an eternally uniformly accelerating mirror—with Dirichlet boundary conditions at the mirror. We argue that this result is significant because, as we point out, such a state does exist if there is also a symmetrically placed decelerating mirror in the left wedge (and the region to the left of this mirror is excluded from the spacetime). We expect a similar existence result to hold for Kruskal when there are symmetrically placed spherical boxes in both right and left Schwarzschild wedges. Our Kruskal no-go conjecture raises basic questions about the nature of the black holes in boxes considered in black hole thermodynamics. If true, it would lend further support to the conclusion of Kay (2015 Gen. Relativ. Gravit. 47 1–27) that the nearest thing to a description of a black hole in equilibrium in a box in terms of a classical spacetime with quantum fields propagating on it has, for the classical spacetime, the exterior Schwarzschild solution, with the classical spacetime picture breaking down near the horizon. Appendix to the paper points out the existence of, and partially fills, a gap in the proofs of the theorems in Kay and Wald (1991 Phys. Rep. 207 49–136).