In Kadison J Pure Appl Alg 218:367–380, (2014) it was shown that subgroup depth may be computed from the permutation module of the left or right cosets: this holds more generally for a Hopf subalgebra, from which we note in this paper that finite depth of a Hopf subalgebra $$R \subseteq H$$ is equivalent to the $$H$$ -module coalgebra $$Q = H/R^+H$$ representing an algebraic element in the Green ring of $$H$$ or $$R$$ . This approach shows that subgroup depth and the subgroup depth of the corefree quotient lie in the same closed interval of length one. We also establish a previous claim that the problem of determining if $$R$$ has finite depth in $$H$$ is equivalent to determining if $$H$$ has finite depth in its smash product $$Q^* \# H$$ . A necessary condition is obtained for finite depth from stabilization of a descending chain of annihilator ideals of tensor powers of $$Q$$ . As an application of these topics to a centerless finite group $$G$$ , we prove that the minimum depth of its group $$\mathbb {C}\,$$ -algebra in the Drinfeld double $$D(G)$$ is an odd integer, which determines the least tensor power of the adjoint representation $$Q$$ that is a faithful $$\mathbb {C}\,G$$ -module.