Abstract Reports from the second and third centuries AD attribute the first measurement of the angular size of the Sun to Thales of Miletus, in the sixth century BC. Cleomedes, also in the second century AD, described a method to perform the measurement based on timing the duration of the sunrise. Several modern authors have suggested that Thales used Cleomedes’ method, but others are skeptical of the connection. Here I present an objection that has not been discussed in the literature, namely, that the proportionality between the size of the Sun and the duration of sunrise is not constant, but changes with latitude and the time of the year, due to what I call the “asymmetric sunrise effect.” I show that this effect is large enough to have prevented Thales from obtaining the roughly accurate recorded value.
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