Dr. A. W. George (Boston): I thought when Dr. Camp started that I could follow him, and I did for a little way, but my head is in such a whirl with the figures and the vastness of the work that I cannot. I suppose next Friday night there will, all of a sudden, come to me certain questions I would like to ask and argue with him. It is a great deal like the presidential campaign at the present moment; there is a President, he is there and doing certain things, hopes he will continue to do so, and perhaps a little later he will be out and somebody else will be in. This work is a good deal like that to me, just at the present moment. It is a tremendously big problem, and if we,—I say we, Dr. Leonard and myself,—have seemed to be over-enthusiastic, perhaps a little too positive at times, it has been perhaps in an effort to stimulate others to help us; in other words, to help the whole problem. I do not know whether, right off hand, I can say that this work of Dr. Carman's is constructive or destructive; whether we have to begin and start all over again, or whether, when we see his figures on paper and can analyze them, they will be of distinct help to us. It is so vast, when you are talking of 2,500 cases—I would not dare to say how long it would take us to get 2,500 cases or how long it has taken him. How long has it taken? Dr. R. D. Carman (Rochester): About a year. Dr. George: Well, of course, we have seen about 2,500 cases in about the same time, including all kinds of gastro-intestinal cases. Every kind of gastro-intestinal case has just the same kind of X-ray examination for the gall bladder that the gall-bladder case has. He has given us a great deal to think about. Whether you and I agree on the primary or indirect evidence or not makes very little difference, if, altogether, we are gradually getting facts that are worth something. We cannot go on with this work alone; we must have your help. We can do so in Boston, because a great majority of the men in Boston are satisfied with the work, or we would not be doing it every day and doing it in such large volume, but it is not helping the great mass of men if there is any great controversy about it. I believe the Bucky diaphragm is the most important instrument that has been given to us among all that we have. I think we could do away with films and double screens, go back to the glass tube and use glass plates, and still, if we could have the Bucky diaphragm, we would do just about as well as now; but take away the Bucky diaphragm and we would be greatly handicapped. Our plates, Dr. Kirklin's and Dr. Carman's, are of the standard, but do not think for a moment that I believe Dr. Carman, Dr. Kirklin and I can do 50 per cent better technical work, but if we make a happy average of his figures and ours, we are going to have a good average together. So, I believe in the use of the Bucky diaphragm, without any question, for gall-bladder work and gastro-intestinal work.