Ventilator-associated pneumonia (VAP) continues to be a disturbing problem in the care of intensive care unit (ICU) patients. Although much progress has been achieved in the past two decades, many issues remain unresolved, and mortality still reaches 30–40% 1, 2. In this issue of the European Respiratory Journal , two contributions are devoted to VAP. Although quite divergent in scope, they all reflect the many difficulties researchers must face when approaching this issue. After all, it seems that tremendous efforts have to be made to even recognise how such difficulties could be avoided in future, more sophisticated study designs. The first contribution approaches the question of whether prone positioning reduces the incidence of VAP and its mortality 3. The authors investigated the effect of prone positioning on the incidence of VAP in a large cohort of 2,409 patients admitted over a 9-yr period to 12 French ICUs. They found that prone positioning had no effect on the risk of VAP. Also, they were unable to detect a decrease in mortality, although in patients receiving prone positioning for more than 1 day, mortality may have in fact been reduced. However, mortality was not reduced in patients with acute respiratory distress syndrome (ARDS) at admission. Positioning as a means to decrease the risk of VAP is continuously attracting much interest. In the 1990s, semi-recumbent positioning was shown to reduce VAP rates 4, 5. This was explained by a reduction of aspiration of contaminated gastric juice 4, 6. Since then, it has become the standard of care in most instances; however, its application in clinical practice continued to be difficult 7. Prone positioning was primarily introduced as a measure to improve oxygenation. It may, however, also have use as a preventive tool based on better secretion …