I agree with Naomi 100% in her insistence that methodological atheism should characterize psychoanalysis. But I do not think that this methodological atheism necessarily entails an ontological atheism. A point which, as we all know, Freud himself made in The Future of An Illusion. Naomi is right to denote our differences as "theological"--that is, we differ over what can be called real. It is not over values. We are both concerned to oppose dehumanization. But we see the danger in different places. I am certainly aware that religion can be dehumanizing. But, perhaps because I was not raised in a religious environment, but rather one dominated by an ethos of rational efficiency, in my gut I am more sensitive to the dehumanizing effects of a reductive rationalism. The experience of religion, which opened up for me new vistas of human potential and awareness, was an experience of liberation from this mechanistic straightjacket, even though it made me increasingly marginal in a scientific culture. For many I know in the academic study of religion the opposite move, and one more readily sponsored by the culture, from religion to critical rationality has been an experience of liberation. Diane is quite right that I am still fighting this battle and that Freud functions as a stand-in for the reductive rationalism I am still opposing and that, as both Diane and Naomi point out, I distort the richness of Freud's work in the process, although I think my characterization of him is true to his main intention. In the Kennedy-Nixon debates, Kennedy said, "I don't recognize my own position when my opponent repeats it back to me." Naomi and I are not opponents, but even so I don't recognize my intent when she describes me as "privileging religion" or "giving it a unique place" in human experience, or treating it as "irreducible," and I'm not sure whose thought is shutting down here. Certainly I think few students in my classes in psychology and religion or patients who have discussed these things with me would say that I privilege religion. So I want to say something for the record
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