Back to table of contents Previous article Next article LettersFull AccessGrief, Bereavement and Depression: A Clarification: In ReplyMark Ragins, M.D.Mark RaginsSearch for more papers by this author, M.D.Published Online:1 Apr 2015https://doi.org/10.1176/appi.ps.660405AboutSectionsPDF/EPUB ToolsAdd to favoritesDownload CitationsTrack Citations ShareShare onFacebookTwitterLinked InEmail In Reply: I appreciate Dr. Pies’ comments. However, I’m not arguing that it is impossible to have major depression and to be grieving. I’m arguing that it is likely that someone experiencing serious grief will meet the major depression criteria and, despite the DSM-5 cautionary note and footnote, be diagnosed as having major depression—even though the individual does not actually have any disorder, illness, or disease. Why? Because giving individuals a diagnosis of major depression makes them legitimate psychiatric patients, authorizes treatment, gets them a prescription, gets us paid, and gets them sick leave and maybe even disability payments. All of which may distract them from the support in grieving that would actually help them.I recently saw a documentary about five people with bipolar disorder, only one of whom I thought had the disorder, even though all of them more or less met the criteria. The other four were an emotionally damaged rape victim, an ex–foster care kid who became a lonely speed-addict artist, a woman with an erratic life and a borderline personality, and her boyfriend who she was “driving crazy.” All four of those people could have received helpful services, but they had been diverted into a bipolar diagnosis, pill compliance and noncompliance, and a mental illness identity—all of which likely won’t be of much help. Also, the funding that could go into other, more helpful services is diverted into these medical services.Maybe all DSM-5 diagnoses should have a list of human experiences that could result in meeting the criteria for the diagnosis, along with a note that reminds DSM-5 users that such persons do not necessarily have the disorder and that asks the clinician to consider how the person could be helped without becoming a psychiatric patient. For example, a clinician might say, “You might not have major depression, even though you meet these criteria, because you’re heavily bereaved. But you can be supported in your grief.” FiguresReferencesCited byDetailsCited BySmoking and Smoking Cessation Treatment Among Hospitalized Psychiatric PatientsRachel Walsh, Lucy Schweinfurth, Faith Dickerson, Ph.D., M.P.H.1 April 2015 | Psychiatric Services, Vol. 66, No. 4Grief, Bereavement and Depression: A ClarificationRonald Pies, M.D.1 April 2015 | Psychiatric Services, Vol. 66, No. 4 Volume 66Issue 4 April 01, 2015Pages 442-442 Metrics PDF download History Published online 1 April 2015 Published in print 1 April 2015