Secondary Intention Research Articles

Wound closure techniques after wide excision for hidradenitis suppurativa: a systematic review and meta-analysis.

Hidradenitis suppurativa (HS) is a chronic inflammatory disease that affects intertriginous skin areas, clinically characterized by recurrent inflamed nodules, abscesses, sinus tracts, and severe scars. Systemic treatments may provide temporary relief, while wide surgical excision offers prolonged disease-free periods. We evaluated the most efficient wound closure methods following wide excision of HS lesions in terms of recurrence, functionality, and quality of life. A systematic literature search was conducted in PubMed, Embase, Cochrane, and ClinicalTrials.gov, adhering to the PRISMA 2020 criteria. We included original studies published until February 2024, focusing on wound closure methods post-wide excision for HS. Data from 121 papers were analyzed using network and direct meta-analysis methods to compare recurrence and postoperative complication rates. From 1181 articles, 121 were included in the meta-analysis after removing duplicates and excluding publications that did not meet the inclusion criteria. Recurrence rates were associated with the type of reconstruction technique as follows: primary closure, 25% (95% confidence interval [CI], 20-30%); skin grafts, 18% (95% CI, 14-22%), and flaps, 12% (95% CI, 9-15%). Secondary intention healing showed a recurrence rate of 28% (95% CI, 23-33%). Flaps were associated with the lowest recurrence rates compared to other surgery techniques.

Optimizing Myelomeningocele Repair: Assessing the Role of Synthetic Acellular Dermal Regeneration Templates in Complex Closures.

Myelomeningoceles threaten newborns with central nervous system infectious risk. While some myelomeningoceles can be repaired fetally, limited donor tissue in newborns makes covering a substantial defect challenging. This study evaluated the effectiveness of acellular dermal regeneration templates (ADRT) in safely healing refractory myelomeningoceles. Seven myelomeningocele repair cases using ADRT (Integra LifeSciences, Plainsboro, NJ) at an academic children's hospital from April 2020 to June 2023 were reviewed. Patients had unsuccessful closure attempts through fetoscopic, postnatal, or revision surgeries by neurosurgery and plastic surgery, leading to complications that required ADRT to protect the dural repair and promote quicker granulation. The case series included 3 male and 4 female patients, with a median delivery age of 37 weeks (IQR: 33-37). Three underwent fetoscopic repairs, and 4 had postnatal repairs within 48 hours of birth. Six patients required ADRT placement due to failed primary repair. One patient failed fetoscopic closure and required immediate ADRT placement following an emergent cesarean delivery. The median wound size covered was 12cm2 (range, 4-20cm2), and the median hospital stay was 84 days (IQR: 43-105). Three weeks post-ADRT placement, 4 patients showed healthy granulation tissue, and the external silicone layer was removed. Three patients needed additional ADRT for complete wound coverage and successful granulation. After granulation, all wounds eventually epithelialized by secondary intention, with no postoperative infection or wound dehiscence observed. ADRT can aid in wound healing and protect dural repair in myelomeningoceles, offering a viable option for complex or failed primary closures with limited donor tissue.

To Sew or Not to Sew: A Case Report

Introduction-Tongue injuries in children vary from slight lacerations to complete amputations. It could be due to fall, self-mutilation, epilepsy, child abuse, or sport injury. The anterior dorsum is the most common site followed by the mid dorsum and anterior ventral part. These injuries may cause dysfunction of tongue, hemorrhage, and disfigurement. Management of injuries of tongue in young children is challenging. There are no established guidelines for managing tongue lacerations. This is a case report of a three-year-old girl with a laceration on the anterolateral part of the tongue with non-approximating wound edges. The laceration extended from the dorsal to the ventral part. The parents were apprehensive about the surgical management of the injury due to the age of their daughter. Hence, healing of the injury with conservative management without suturing was achieved. Conclusion-The management of traumatic injuries of tongue in children is difficult due to their age and cooperation. The pediatrician has to decide whether to heal the tongue by primary or secondary intention. Our decision to allow the healing by secondary intention was successful. The tongue healed without any complications barring a small scar with satisfactory aesthetic and functional outcome. Both the parents and the child were satisfied with the management of the injury.

An Observational Study On Surgical Procedures Of The Pilonidal Sinus Disease: Primary Closure, Healing By Secondary Intention And Limberg Flap Reconstruction

An Observational Study On Surgical Procedures Of The Pilonidal Sinus Disease: Primary Closure, Healing By Secondary Intention And Limberg Flap Reconstruction

Management of Frontal Bone Exposure Following Paramedian Forehead Flap for Nasal Reconstruction.

The paramedian forehead flap is renowned for its versatility and can cover a wide range of nasal defect sizes. Most of the literature discussing outcomes of paramedian forehead flap reconstructions focuses on morbidity at the recipient site. Frontal bone exposure resulting from the use of the paramedian forehead flap is a rare but possible complication, especially when periosteum overlying the bone is damaged during surgery or during healing by secondary intention due to desiccation. In this case, a 53-year-old female underwent nasal reconstruction with a paramedian forehead flap for an extensive nasal defect after Mohs surgery and resection of residual basal cell carcinoma. She missed her postoperative follow-up visit, and her frontal bone was noted to be exposed before the division of the pedicle procedure. During the division of the pedicle, the frontal bone was burred, and a bilayer dermal regeneration matrix was applied. She underwent a split-thickness skin grafting from her thigh at 4 weeks. The graft take was 100%, and wound closure was achieved with an acceptable cosmetic outcome. The successful resolution of the complication through innovative surgical interventions highlights the importance of adaptive surgical strategies and thorough postoperative care, aiming to contribute to the existing body of knowledge and improve future clinical practices in reconstructive surgery.

Primary Closure of Scalp Abscesses Following Surgical Drainage Versus Healing Via Secondary Intention: A Retrospective Patient Series

Primary Closure of Scalp Abscesses Following Surgical Drainage Versus Healing Via Secondary Intention: A Retrospective Patient Series

Umbilical Amniotic Tissue Graft as an Alternative Approach for Eyelid Reconstruction After Necrotizing Fasciitis Debridement

A 54-year-old female with myelodysplastic syndrome on chemotherapy presented with 10 days of periocular erythema and edema worsening on oral antibiotics. Computed Tomography scan showed periorbital soft tissue swelling without postseptal extension or abscess. Intravenous broad-spectrum antibiotics were administered. However, she developed necrosis of the upper eyelid requiring aggressive debridement. Nine days after debridement, the defect measuring 5.5 × 3 cm was covered using an umbilical amniotic tissue graft (AmnioGuard, BioTissue, Miami, FL). At postoperative week 4, 5-fluorouracil was injected to prevent the shortening of anterior lamella. At postoperative week 20, the graft had dissolved and been replaced by regenerated skin. Final eyelid exam demonstrated normal eyelid elevation and minimal lagophthalmos. Herein, we present a case of umbilical amniotic membrane as a substrate graft to support the healing of the eyelid defect by secondary intention.

Mesh exposure after ventral hernia repair with onlay biosynthetic mesh: a retrospective review of associated risk factors and management strategies.

Although intraperitoneal and retromuscular mesh placement in ventral hernia repair (VHR) are associated with lower recurrence rates, the onlay plane remains a well-established option for certain clinical scenarios. A knowledge gap remains regarding resorbable biosynthetic onlay mesh and mesh exposure. We aim to determine exposure rate, risk factors, and treatment options. A single-center, two-surgeon retrospective review was performed examining patients who underwent VHR with onlay, Poly-4-hydroxybutyrate (P4HB) mesh from 2015 to 2021. Demographics, operative characteristics, outcomes, and mesh exposure management were analyzed. Of 346 patients, 15 (4.3%) experienced mesh exposure. The mean age was 53 years and BMI of 33.6kg/m2. Patients were majority ASA class 3 (65%), female (64.2%), and averaged a defect size of 307.9 ± 235.2 cm2. Independent risk factors included diabetes (AOR = 4.3,CI 1.5-12.5;p < 0.005) and COPD (AOR = 5.2,CI 1.3-21.8;p = 0.02). Mesh exposures were identified as outpatient (20%) or intraoperative (80%). All underwent operative debridement, in which nine were managed with skin reclosure, two with partial closure, and four healed by secondary intention. Five patients required excision of unincorporated mesh. Four patients required further debridement from chronic surgical site occurrences; however, all mesh exposure patents healed after a mean of 260.8 ± 313.2 days and retained original mesh. The recurrence rate was 6.7% for mesh exposure patients. When faced with mesh exposure, resorbable biosynthetic mesh placed in onlay fashion was retained in all patients. Patients with a history of diabetes or COPD have increased risk of mesh exposure and should be counseled.

Wound infection rate after skin closure of damage control laparotomy with wicks or incisional negative wound therapy: An EAST multi-center trial.

Damage control laparotomy (DCL) has a high risk of SSI and as an attempt to mitigate this, surgeons often leave the skin open to heal by secondary intention. A recent retrospective study showed that DCL wounds could be closed with the addition of wicks or incisional wound vacs with acceptable rates of wound infection. The aim of this prospective trial was to corroborate these results.This is a prospective multicenter observational trial performed by 7 institutions from July 2020 to April 2022. Adult patients who underwent DCL and fascia/skin closure with the addition of wicks or an incisional wound vac were included. Patients who died within seven days of DCL were excluded. Demographics, mechanism of initial presentation, wound classification, antibiotics given, surgical site infections, procedures performed, and mortality data was collected. Fisher's Exact test was used for categorical data and Wilcoxon Rank Sum test for continuous data. Mean days to closure was assessed using Student's t-test for independent groups. P-values <0.05 were considered indicative of statistical significance.Over the 21-month period, a total of 119 patients analyzed. Most patients were male (n = 66, 63 %), and the average age was 51 years. The average number of days the abdomen was kept open was 2.6. A majority of the DCLs were performed on acute care patients (n = 76, 63.8 %) and 92 patients (77.3 %) had a wound classification of contaminated or dirty. Most of the patients’ skin was closed with wicks in place (68.9 %). There was a 9.8 % infection rate in patient's skin closed with wicks versus 16.2 % closed with an incisional wound vac (p = 0.361).Although the wick group had a higher proportion of class III and IV wound types, patients primarily treated with wicks had a lower risk of wound infection compared to those treated with incisional wound VACs; however, this difference was not statistically significant.

Temporoparietal Fascia Sandwich Technique in the Immediate Reconstruction of Human Bite Ear Amputation.

Traumatic ear amputation is a rare injury. Ear replantation is the gold standard in dealing with amputated ears. However, this is not always feasible. In this case series, the authors discuss the immediate reconstruction of traumatic ear amputation using temporoparietal fascia with the same skin from the amputated ear, which provided a high esthetic result and patient satisfaction. The authors present a case series of 3 patients from July 2018 to May 2020 who suffered from traumatic ear amputation due to a human bite and were successfully reconstructed using temporoparietal fascia and the same skin from the amputated ear as FTSG.The cartilage was sutured back, the temporoparietal fascia was raised and flipped over the exposed cartilage, and the FTSG previously harvested from the same amputated ear was put on the fascia. Quilting sutures were taken to ensure proper inset of the graft on the fascia. The authors measured the patient-reported outcome using an Ear-Q validated questionnaire. All patients were males, with a mean age of 30.6 years. They were all smokers, and none of them had any comorbidities. No major complications occurred. However, partial graft loss occurred in one patient and healed properly with secondary intention. All patients had high satisfaction scores of more than 70 in the EAR-Q questionnaires. Traumatic human bite ear amputations can be reconstructed with good esthetic outcomes by using single-stage temporoparietal fascia and the same skin of the amputated ear as a full-thickness skin graft whenever replantation is not feasible.

Comparative analysis of one-step and two-step full thickness skin grafting and secondary intention healing for skin defects after surgical management of plantar malignant melanoma.

Plantar malignant melanoma is largely managed surgically, particularly in its early stages. However, the plantar region has a lower survival rate of skin grafts than other regions. Furthermore, complete wound healing occurs over a long period of time, postoperatively. Thus, in this study, we retrospectively analyzed the use of skin grafts to reconstruct skin defects, as postoperative complications of plantar malignant melanoma. Forty-nine patients, (23 males, 26 females; mean age 70.4-years) underwent excisional surgery for plantar malignant melanoma at our hospital, between March 2018 and December 2022. The time from initial surgery to wound healing was analyzed, using a multivariate Cox proportional hazards model, to identify related factors. We excluded cases with lesions in non-weight-bearing areas and cases with segmental layer grafts, based on multivariate analysis, to eliminate bias when comparing a one-step resection and reconstruction technique to resection followed by waiting for granulation to occur before reconstruction. Patients were categorized into three cohorts. The first and second cohorts had undergone one-step and two-step skin grafting, respectively. Patients in the third cohort underwent secondary intention healing without skin grafting. The results revealed that the factors associated with wound-healing time included a defect size of >1800 mm2, in addition to two-step and split-thickness skin grafting. Therefore, Kaplan-Meier curves were constructed across the three cohorts, based on the data of 37 patients. Nine cases of non-weight-bearing areas and three cases of split-thickness skin grafts were excluded from the original total of 49 patients. The median times from the initial surgery to wound healing were 14.6, 12.0, and 21.9 weeks for the one- and two-step skin grafting and secondary intention healing cohorts, respectively. A statistically significant difference in the treatment time between the skin grafting and secondary intention healing cohorts was observed (p < 0.001) Moreover, a statistically significant difference in the treatment time between the one- and two-step skin grafting cohorts was noted (p = 0.046). Thus, two-step skin grafting after surgical treatment for plantar malignant melanoma may shorten the overall treatment duration by allowing granulation to occur.

Primary closure of fasciotomies has a reduced complication rate following compartment syndrome in the paediatric population.

Currently no guidance exists within the literature regarding diagnostic criteria or the long-term outcomes for paediatric patients with acute compartment syndrome (ACS). We conducted a retrospective cohort study reviewing all cases of paediatric ACS managed at a single tertiary referral centre with the aim of characterising the factors responsible for the eventual outcomes. The patient cohort was identified retrospectively by interrogating the hospital coding system for all paediatric patients between January 2014 and November 2022. The electronic emergency department, inpatient and operative notes as well as clinic letters for each patient were reviewed and data collected regarding presentation, associated injuries, management and subsequent complications plus length of follow-up. The data was analysed to determine if differences in presentation or management affected long term outcome. The final cohort consisted of 34 patients with a mean age of tenyears at the time of presentation. The mean time from presentation to fasciotomy was 27.6h (range 3.0 - 66.6). There was an overall complication rate of 37.5% with a mean follow-up period of 21months. Patients who had direct closure of their fasciotomy wounds had a significantly lower complications rate and fewer operations compared to those who healed via other wound coverage methods or secondary intention (p < 0.05). Significantly higher complication rates were observed in patients who were unable to have direct wound closure following emergency fasciotomy. This information may be utilised to rationalise long term treatment plans and in counselling of patients and parents.

50546 Secondary intention healing of surgical wounds in the dorsal hand: an under-utilized technique?

50546 Secondary intention healing of surgical wounds in the dorsal hand: an under-utilized technique?

Parent-mediated intervention in infants with an elevated likelihood for autism reduces dwell time during a gaze-following task.

Cognitive markers may in theory be more sensitive to the effects of intervention than overt behavioral measures. The current study tests the impact of the Intervention with the British Autism Study of Infant Siblings-Video Interaction for Promoting Positive Parenting (iBASIS-VIPP) on an eye-tracking measure of social attention: dwell time to the referred object in a gaze following task. The original two-site, two-arm, assessor-blinded randomized controlled trial (RCT) of this intervention to increase parental awareness, and responsiveness to their infant, was run with infants who have an elevated familial likelihood for autism (EL). Fifty-four EL infants (28 iBASIS-VIPP intervention, 26 no intervention) were enrolled, and the intervention took place between 9 months (baseline) and 15 months (endpoint), with gaze following behavior measured at 15 months. Secondary intention to treat (ITT) analysis showed that the intervention was associated with significantly reduced dwell time to the referent of another person's gaze (β = -0.32, SE = 0.14, p = 0.03) at 15-month treatment endpoint. Given the established link between gaze following and language, the results are considered in the context of a previously reported, non-significant and transient trend toward lower language scores at the treatment endpoint (Green et al. (2015) The Lancet Psychiatry, 2(2), 133-140). Future intervention trials should aim to include experimental cognitive measures, alongside behavioral measures, to investigate mechanisms associated with intervention effects.

Absorbable and biodegradable enzyme-crosslinked gelatin/alginate semi-IPN hydrogel wound dressings containing curcumin

Effective wound management presents a substantial financial and time-related obstacle for healthcare institutions. Enhancing healthcare involves implementing innovative wound treatment methods to minimize healing time and expenses. This study is centered on the development of a non-toxic wound dressing using only two natural polymers and an enzyme. By adding 10 % wt microbial transglutaminase, the mechanical properties of the dressing were improved. This formulation increased the swelling rate by 70 %, deswelling rate by 15 %, conversion rate by 9 %, and networking rate by 20 %. Additionally, the non-toxic dressing showed a cell viability rate of 106 %. In drug delivery tests, explosive release behavior was observed, which is advantageous for open wounds. Cell staining experiments were also carried out to evaluate wound behavior in terms of collagen formation, granulation, and inflammation. The results suggest that the optimized hydrogel has great potential as a wound dressing. Its excellent absorption, antioxidant, and biocompatibility characteristics enhance tissue granulation rate and reduce wound treatment time by half compared to conventional methods, while also minimizing scarring risk. This innovative treatment, which eliminates the need for frequent changes, is beneficial for both secondary intentions and severe open wounds requiring bottom-up healing.

Combination of secondary intention healing and primary closure to reconstruct large facial defects.

Secondary intention healing has been a well-established method to close wounds for more than 200 years. Indeed, it represents the easiest technique in the ladder of plastic reconstruction. Primary wound closure (side-to-side closure, direct wound closure) is the second easiest method. The combination of these two techniques is already an integral aspect of specific surgical procedures, e.g. the reconstruction of the donor site of a paramedian forehead flap. This minireview will show that the combination is also a suitable alternative to classic flaps in reconstruction of different aesthetic subunits of the face. These are the scalp, the lateral cheek, the upper nasal sidewall/medial canthus and the retroauricular region. The advantages and disadvantages will be discussed and illustrated with clinical examples.

Initial experience with ovine forestomach matrix graft for glossectomy defect reconstruction: A case series

Soft tissue reconstruction of oral cavity defects, such as glossectomy defects secondary to malignancy, pose a challenge for head and neck, oral, and maxillofacial surgeons. Reconstruction options for mucosal defects include primary closure, healing by secondary intention, full mucosal and split-thickness skin grafts, pedicled flaps, and microvascular free flaps. Biological grafts have become an integral part of the modern reconstructive ladder and are widely used for the regeneration of various soft tissue defects, including oral defects. This case series describes our initial experience using ovine forestomach matrix grafts in tongue and oral cavity reconstruction. Oral reconstruction using ovine forestomach matrix grafts was undertaken on three patients post wide excision and resulted in good functional and cosmetic outcomes. The rate of tissue formation provided by the graft and the grafts’ relative resistance to the hostile environment of the oral cavity support further clinical research to validate the use of these devices in oral reconstruction.

Temporary diverting loop ileostomy in Crohn's disease surgery; indications and outcome.

Crohn's disease can present with complex surgical pathologies, posing a significant risk of morbidity and mortality for patients. The implementation of a loop ileostomy for selected patients may help minimize associated risks. In this retrospective cohort study, we investigated the utilization of temporary fecal diversion through the creation of a loop ileostomy in Crohn's surgery. Closure of all ostomies involved a hand-sewn single-layer technique. We then conducted bivariate analysis on 30-day outcomes for closures, focusing on favorable recovery defined as the restoration of bowel continuity without the occurrence of two challenges in recovery: newly developed organ dysfunction or the necessity for reoperation. In total, 168 patients were included. The median age of the patients was 38 years (IQR 27-51). The most common indication for a loop ostomy was peritonitis (49%). After ileostomy closure, 163 patients (97%) achieved favorable recovery, while five encountered challenges; four (2.4%) underwent abdominal surgery, and one (0.6%) developed acute renal failure requiring dialysis. Two patients (1.2%) had a re-creation of ileostomy. Patients encountering challenges were older (56 [IQR 41-61] vs. 37 [IQR 27-50]; p 0.039) and more often required secondary intention wound healing (40% vs. 6.7%; p 0.049) and postoperative parenteral nutrition following their index surgery (83% vs. 26%; p 0.006). Selectively staging the Crohn's disease operations with a loop ileostomy is a reliable practice with low morbidity and high restoration rates of bowel continuity. Our hand-sewn single-layer technique proves effective in achieving successful surgical recovery.

Primary Closure of External Fixator Pin Sites Is Safe After Orthopaedic Trauma Surgery.

To determine if rates of pin site infection and surgical site infection among patients managed with primary closure after external fixator removal were similar to those allowed to heal secondarily. Retrospective cohort. Urban/Suburban Academic Level I Trauma Center. Patients who had received a lower extremity external fixator for provisional management before definitive fixation of lower extremity fractures were included with pin site wounds closed primarily or allowed to heal by secondary intention. The rate of pin tract infection and surgical site infection following primary closure of external fixator pin sites relative to patients whose pin sites were allowed to heal through secondary intention. In total, 256 patients were evaluated: 143 patients (406 pin sites) in the primary closure group and 113 patients (340 in sites) in the secondary closure group. The average age was 49 ± 16 years. Sixty-five percent of included patients were male. There was no difference in pin tract infections between cohorts (primary = 0.5%, secondary = 1.5%, P = 0.26). External fixator duration in the primary closure group was 11.5 ± 8.4 days and 13.0 ± 8.1 days in the secondary closure group (P = 0.15). There was a greater rate of surgical site infections in the secondary intention cohort (15.9% vs. 7.7%, P = 0.047). There was no difference in pin site infection rate after primary pin site closure relative to patients who were allowed to heal through secondary intention. Furthermore, there was a lower rate of surgical site infection after primary closure. These results challenge the dogma of secondary closure for ex fix pin sites, suggesting that debridement and primary closure is a safe option for management of external fixator pin sites and may impart benefit in decreasing infection risk. Therapeutic Level III. See Instructions for Authors for a complete description of levels of evidence.

Impact of Wound Closure Technique on Surgical Site Infection After Lower Extremity Bypass Surgery

Surgical site infections (SSIs) are among the most common complications after lower extremity bypass (LEB). Both patient and hospital-related factors have been associated with SSI after LEB; however, the impact of surgical closure technique on SSI incidence remains unclear. Institutional electronic medical records (EMRs) were retrospectively queried for all LEB procedures performed from 2018 to 2022. Data were collected on patient demographics, medical comorbidities, operative details, wound closure techniques, and postoperative outcomes. Closure techniques included skin staples, absorbable monofilament (Monocryl), nonabsorbable monofilament (Nylon), or left open to heal by secondary intention. Logistic regression analysis was utilized to identify risk factors and calculate adjusted odds ratios (ORs) for postoperative SSI. A total of 517 patients underwent LEB surgery over the study period. SSI was diagnosed in 120 (23.2%) patients over a median follow-up period of 1.5years. The most common SSI locations were groin incision (40.0%), saphenectomy (31.7%), and leg incision (19.2%). The median onset of SSI was 18.5d (interquartile range [IQR] 11-28d) post-LEB surgery. Patients with SSI had higher body mass index (BMI) (28.2 [IQR 24.2-33.5] vs. 26.6 [23.1-31.5] kg/m2, P=0.03) compared with non-SSI patients. Patient age, sex, and medical comorbidities were otherwise similar between groups. There were no differences in closure technique (79.2% vs. 78.1% staples, 18.3% vs. 19.7% Monocryl, 0.8% vs. 1.8% Nylon, 1.7% vs. 0.5% open; P=0.53) in SSI versus non-SSI groups. On multivariate analysis, patient BMI (OR 1.04 per unit, 95% confidence interval [CI] 1.01-1.08, P=0.02), reoperative field (OR 1.81, 95% CI 1.00-3.25, P=0.03), and active smoking (OR 2.72, 95% CI 1.12-6.59, P=0.048) were independently associated with increased SSI incidence. Postoperative SSI resulted in prolonged hospital length of stay (LOS) (7 vs. 6days, P=0.04), unplanned hospital readmission (49.2% vs. 12.3%, P<0.001), and reoperation rates (64.7% vs. 8.1%, P<0.001). Bypass graft infection rates were also higher among patients suffering postoperative SSI (9.2% vs. 0.0%, P<0.001). On subset analysis of patients at increased risk of postoperative SSI, as found on multivariate modeling, there were no differences in closure technique between SSI and no SSI groups. This study provides insights on wound closure techniques and postoperative SSI made available through granular, operative data that are not found in large database analyses. Surgical wound closure technique was not associated with postoperative SSI after LEB surgery, even among patients at increased risk of infection. These data support individualization of wound closure techniques among patients undergoing LEB surgery.