China’s Global Statecraft: An Interview with Ching Kwan Lee Eli Friedman (bio) and Ching Kwan Lee (bio) Ching Kwan Lee’s The Specter of Global China: Politics, Labor, and Foreign Investment in Africa (2017) had a major impact on discussions about Chinese global economic policy, transcending a tired debate about whether China is engaged in neocolonialism. Lee’s fieldwork drew our attention to both the continuities and ruptures between Euro-American empire and an ascendant China in patterns of investment, natural resource extraction, and labor politics. But much has changed in the half-decade since the book was published. China’s overseas investments have been dramatically curtailed; political and economic disarray in the United States has bolstered China’s relative geopolitical standing; the Chinese government has become increasingly repressive internally, especially in the peripheries of Tibet, Xinjiang, and Hong Kong, while seemingly more aggressive in the South China Sea and Taiwan; and of course, a global pandemic has occurred. I spoke with Lee to get her thoughts on these developments and to hear how her understanding of “global China” is evolving. Eli Friedman: The Financial Times recently reported on new challenges for Chinese lending in sub-Saharan Africa. Without getting too bogged down in the interminable debate on “debt trap diplomacy”—the idea that Beijing is strategically extending loans with unfavorable conditions with the aim of exerting political control over impoverished nations—what do you make of the potentially real issue of growing debt distress in the region? Do you anticipate the imposition of IMF-style austerity, slashing of social spending, or reductions in infrastructural development? After decades of rapid expansion, what might be the social effects of tightening up Chinese lending? Ching Kwan Lee: The FT report did a great job debunking current mythologies about Chinese loans for infrastructure. Citing experts on international aid and loans, it shows that many clauses of Chinese loans (such [End Page 25] Click for larger view View full resolution Workers stand on the Hong Kong–Zhuhai–Macau Bridge in 2017. (Anthony Wallace/AFP via Getty Images) [End Page 26] as requiring Debt Service Reserve Accounts) are standard components of comparable loans by Western countries and agencies. And the recent spate of debt distress stories has a lot to do with the natural life course of these loans. These fifteen-to-twenty-year loans are approaching maturation, and the Chinese government and debtor countries have to renegotiate or restructure their agreements. None of the feared Chinese takeovers of airports or ports have happened yet. And tightening regulations over these loan disbursements can lead to more accountability. Along these lines, I want to applaud colleagues at the China Africa Research Initiative (CARI) who have consistently called out misinformation, lack of understanding of common legal terms, and erroneous reports published by Western media about Chinese loan practices. Their latest paper tears apart two reports by the state media in France about a Chinese-financed highway in Montenegro, which claimed that Montenegro’s Port of Bar could be annexed by China “completely legally,” thanks to an “extraordinary contract” that had “already [been] implemented by the Chinese in Sri Lanka or in Djibouti.” None of this is factually true! False alarms and misinformation circulating in the world media do not mean Chinese lending practices are beyond reproach. Both the FT article and the CARI report only scratch the surface. We have to ask what interests and which players have been driving China’s lending spree. In most debates, people write about “China” as if there is a willful mastermind located in Beijing, pulling levers and making sinister decisions. In reality, there are many bureaucratic, ministerial, corporate, and private interests behind the “Going Out” policy, or the Belt and Road Initiative (BRI). These interests compete as much as they collude, and often they end up defying, derailing, or defeating Beijing’s grand strategy. In The Specter of Global China, I explain the ways in which Chinese loans are predatory and pernicious. In Zambia, they were supply-driven: they were not initiated by would-be debtor countries but by Chinese state-owned contractors going abroad to export surplus capacity. The clout and connections of these state-owned enterprises allowed...
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