Abstract
This is a testament to conversations held in Berne and Fribourg, Switzerland, in late 1988. The main theme that we present concerns seeking to find an adequate epistemology for systems practice, to find a “truly” critical approach, by shifting our interests from “systems science” to “systems rationality” (i.e., by “reaching out” toward a systems epistemological ideal) and by dealing with sociological phenomena such as the “effects of material conditions” and false consciousness and inequalities associated with these. Social rationalities relating to positivism, interpretivism, and critique are considered. Limitations and legitimacies of these rationalities in social contexts are made explicit in these discussions.
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