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David J. Clancy et al. (“Dietary restriction in long-lived dwarf flies,” Brevia, 12 April, p. [319][1]) report that chico1 mutant fruit flies, which live longer than controls at typical food concentrations, have shorter life-spans when kept under food shortage conditions that lead to increased longevity of nonmutant flies. They conclude that the slowing of aging by the chico1 mutation and caloric restriction (CR) occurs by overlapping mechanisms, and they use their findings to question our interpretation of our recent results ([1][2]) showing that CR extends the life-span of long-lived Ames dwarf mice. We agree with Clancy et al. that a formal proof of synergistic interaction requires dose-response studies and examination of interactive effects at half-maximal or maximal response levels and that there could well be overlap between the pathways that lead to life-span extension in CR mice and those that slow aging in dwarf mice; indeed, our paper included a list of features shared by normal CR mice and genetically long-lived mice. However, a strong case can also be made for differences between the two modes of life-span extension, including the contrast between the leanness of CR mice and the normal-to-obese physique of dwarf mice, opposite changes in spontaneous locomotor activity ([2][3]), differences in corticosterone levels and food consumption, and distinct differences ([3][4]) in gene expression profiles between dwarf and CR mice. Our paper added further evidence that CR and df/df mice differ in important ways, by showing that restricted dwarf mice live longer than either normal dwarf mice or controls restricted to levels that are typically found optimal and by pointing out that CR seemed to affect the slope of the survival curve, while the df/df genotype altered not slope but offset point. The fruit fly data show some food concentrations at which control flies are longer lived than chico1 mutants, presumably representing greater susceptibility of mutant flies to starvation. We have not assessed the question of whether dwarf mice might also be more starvation sensitive than normals at very low food levels, but our conclusion that the two models involve partially disparate mechanisms would not be shaken by such a finding. We believe that the findings of Clancy et al. from the fly and our findings from the mouse are complementary rather than conflicting. Further pursuit of the molecular basis for life-span extension in both restricted and mutant models is likely to be very informative. 1. [↵][5]1. A. Bartke 2. et al. , Nature 414, 412 (2001). [OpenUrl][6][CrossRef][7][PubMed][8] 2. [↵][9]1. J. Mattison 2. et al. , J. Am. Aging Assoc. 23, 9 (2000). [OpenUrl][10][PubMed][11] 3. [↵][12]1. R. A. Miller 2. et al. , in preparation. # Response {#article-title-2} Bartke et al. make several interesting and important points. We agree that to demonstrate that two different interventions extend life-span by overlapping mechanisms, it is necessary to maximize life-span by one (as we did in Drosophila by dietary restriction) and then to show that addition of the second does not further extend life-span (as we showed for the chico1 mutation). This result indicates that the two interventions extend life-span through a final common pathway or mechanism. However, had we not first maximized life-span by dietary restriction, we might not have discovered this, because at more moderate levels of dietary restriction, chico1 extends life-span. More generally, interaction studies of this type cannot be used to demonstrate that two interventions act through different pathways. To illustrate this point, suppose that we had seen a further extension of life-span by chico1 at the level of dietary restriction that maximizes life-span. This might have meant that the mechanisms of extension of life-span were different. However, it might also have meant that the downstream pathway(s) through which dietary restriction extends life-span had not been fully activated at the food level that maximized life-span, so that further activation and extension of life-span were still possible by the addition of chico1 . We also agree that many of the phenotypes associated with the Ames mutation and caloric restriction in the mouse are different. However, these other phenotypes may not be causal in the extension of life-span; they are correlated traits that may be induced by the upstream intervention through routes independent of those producing the extension of life-span. 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