K ing is not happy with either my survey of early modem poor relief or my speculations about its economic effects. My survey understates variations within England and overstates differences between England and the continent. My speculations focus too much on agriculture and too little on rural industry.2 These strictures draw heavily on recent work, by King and a few others, on poor relief in rural manufacturing districts of the north of England. This research is most welcome for it helps rectify the disproportionate concentration of old poor law studies on the south. But its results do little to undermine my insistence on the distinctiveness of English relief.3 In my survey of poor relief, which was more distillation than survey, I was trying to generalize about the differences between England and the rest of Europe. I did not deny that there was considerable variation within England or within the rest of Europe but argued that the differences were sufficiently large to make such variation of secondary importance. It may well be true that poor relief in Lancashire and Yorkshire was more grudgingly dispensed than it was in Berkshire and Bedfordshire. But it could still be true that in the north of England rural relief was distinctly more available than in the rural manufacturing districts of Flanders, Germany, France, or Ireland. The evidence on continental relief cited by King does not compare like with like and only confirms my point about the concentration of relief in the towns. Of the three detailed studies, two deal with urban relief in Italy, and the other with rural poverty, but not poor relief, in the Netherlands.4 The two general works cited rely I I thank Steve King for making available to me some of his unpublished work and for his comments. 2 King, 'Poor relief, commenting on Solar, 'Poor relief. ITwo recent studies also highlight the distinctiveness of English poor relief: Lindert, 'Unequal living standards', pp. 381-6; JUtte, Poverty and deviance, p. 121. 4 Cavallo, 'Patterns'; Subacchi, 'ConjUnctural poor'; Schellekens, 'Poverty'.
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